If You Go Looking

Venusians

XD/2/C→N

Orthon · the Lords of the Flame

A tradition that survived its own falsification.

Theosophy placed exalted beings on Venus; Adamski met a Venusian in the Californian desert in 1952. Then the probes arrived. What they found should have ended it, and instead the tradition relocated. The single best illustration of how these stories move when the world contradicts them.

If you go looking

The tradition relocated rather than ended when it was contradicted, which is worth holding in mind when assessing anything else it says.

Who should be careful

Reading the code

XD/2/C→N

Extraterrestrial, unembodied · embodiment 2 of 5, energetic or subtle · source: contactee tradition → channelled material · key

Dates

Contact claimed: 1952

Surface conditions confirmed: 1960s–70s

Related

Began as a Nordic. Ended as a light being.

Terms used on this page

XD: extraterrestrial, unembodied

Origin code

Said to come from outside the Earth, whether another star system or another dimension, and to have no physical body now. A few traditions say they once had one; most never say.

Degree of embodiment: 2, energetic or subtle

Scale, 1 to 5

5 is an ordinary biological body. 4 is physical but manifests oddly. 3 comes and goes. 2 is energetic or subtle. 1 is consciousness with no persistent form. Note that this tends to fall as a tradition ages.

C: contactee tradition

Source code

Traceable to one named person's claimed meetings. Detailed, often internally consistent, and rarely corroborated by anyone who did not read the first account.

N: channelled material

Source code

Received by a medium speaking on behalf of the intelligence. The content is generally ethical and cosmological rather than descriptive: instruction, not testimony.

Theosophy

Movement, from 1875

Introduced planes of subtler matter, hierarchies of nature intelligences and inhabited planets on the spiritual rather than physical level. Supplied the vocabulary (vibration, density, ascended teachers) that channelled ufology runs on eighty years later.

The surface of Venus

Confirmed 1960s–70s

Around 460°C under crushing pressure. Adamski's Venusian became untenable, and the tradition relocated to a higher-dimensional Venus rather than disappearing: a move that is unfalsifiable by construction and worth watching for elsewhere.

Engaged through channelling

Practice-side

Contact in this tradition means trance, mediumship or automatic writing. The risks are the practice's, not the entity's: dissociation, sustained altered states, and the difficulty of telling one's own material from something external. Least suitable for anyone with a history of psychosis, mania or dissociation.

Deliberate contact work

Read this first

The hazard in this subject attaches to the method, not to which name you aim it at. Ouija work, invocation, sustained channelling, induced hypnagogia, deliberate sleep deprivation and hypnotic regression are the practices associated with difficulty, and a session aimed at a benevolent civilisation is not safer than one aimed at something considered lower. What raises risk is doing it alone, doing it repeatedly, doing it while sleep-deprived, and doing it with an existing vulnerability to psychosis, mania or dissociation. People who get into trouble here overwhelmingly got there through practice, not through reading.

Who should be careful

Practice-side

Anyone with a personal or family history of psychosis, bipolar disorder or dissociative conditions, anyone in acute crisis, and anyone isolated from people who would notice a change in them. Intensive contact practice is destabilising by design (that is what it is for), and destabilisation lands hardest on people already close to an edge.

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